Libertarian Party Presidential Debate
[The debate begins at 7pm (9pm EST) and will be broadcast on C-SPAN with Jim Pinkerton moderating. The participants had to receive 56 tokens in order to participate in the debate.
The debate participants are:
- Bob Barr
- Mike Gravel
- Mike Jingozian
- Steve Kubby
- George Phillies
- Wayne Allyn Root
- Mary Ruwart
I'll be updating throughout the debate.
[6:59pm] The debate will be getting underway shortly. I'm sitting on Bloggers Row in between Dave Weigel from Reason and Stephen Littau from The Liberty Papers.
[7:03pm] Jim Pinkerton is getting a lot boos as his resume is being read off to the delegates. However, he received warm welcome to the stage.
[7:05pm] Barr's reception was mixed. Ruwart received the strongest sign of support.
[7:09pm] Barr gets the first question, which is, "What philosopher best represents your views?" Barr says, "Ayn Rand."
[7:12pm] Barr: "Inside this heart beats the heart of a Libertarian."
[7:13pm] Gravel: "The Libertarian Party has what it takes to fix the problems in this country."
[7:13pm] Gravel says that the Libetarian Party represents: "Freedom! Freedom! Freedom!"
[7:15pm] Phillies is going through how he has helped build the LP over the last few years. Phillies issues are ending the war in Iraq, restoring fiscal responsibility and restoring civil liberties. He called the conservatism a "philosophy of bigotry."
[7:22pm] Root says he is the best candidate for the party and a “citizen politician” and he adds that he would be the first Jewish-American to receive a party nomination.
[7:24pm] Root also promises to help build party by helping to win every local election possible.
[7:26pm] Phillies said one of his influences was Barry Goldwater. He adds that if Goldwater were alive today he would be cheering the LP on with a new title to his book, Conscience of a Libertarian.
[7:27pm] Ruwart says her main influence was Ayn Rand.
[7:28pm] Steve Kubby cites David Nolan as his biggest influence. Nolan is the founder of the LP.
[7:29pm] Root says Yogi Berra as his influence. Root reminds me of a white Obama.
[7:31pm] Gravel calls for withdrawal from Iraq and an end to imperialism.
[7:32pm] Phillies says the war in Iraq ended years ago and that it is time to bring the troops home.
[7:33pm] Phillies: “End the war, end foreign aid…”
[7:33pm] Jingozian takes the first shot at Obama.
[7:34pm] Ruwart says the best way to remain peaceful with other nations is through trade.
[7:35pm] Kubby says, “The United States has no enemies in this world.”
[7:37pm] Barr hits George Bush for nation-building and says we need to bring the troops home, not just from Iraq but from other stations around the world and put the money back in the hands of the taxpayers.
[7:40pm] Ruwart says that bring the troops home would cut the cost of oil.
[7:43pm] Kubby told the crowd about his car that runs on vegetable oil.
[7:44pm] Root says that we need to explore oil reserves in the US by drilling in ANWR and off the coast of Florida and encourage more nuclear energy.
[7:45pm] Barr says to get government out of energy and get business back in.
[7:45pm] Gravel: “We can get off gasoline in five years.”
[7:48pm] Kubby says that he debates with his Green friend over the environment and often is at odds with them because they want the government to monitor pollution. He said it was like the fox guarding the hen house.
[7:50pm] Root says the second largest polluter, next to the US government, is Al Gore.
[7:51pm] Barr took a shot at McCain’s support of the Kyoto Protocol. He calls the idea, “absolutely crazy.”
[7:55pm] Question to the candidate: "How would you deal witht he PATRIOT Act and the REAL ID?"
[7:56pm] Ruwart said that she would work to have them both repealed.
[7:57pm] Kubby took a shot at Barr over the PATRIOT Act. When Barr reluctantly voted for the PATRIOT Act in Congress.
[7:57pm] Root said that the PATRIOT Act and REAL ID Act were two issues that drove him to become a Libertarian.
[7:59pm] Root says that we should privatize the war on terror.
[8:00pm] Barr says that the politics of fear drove the PATRIOT Act. Barr says that he would drive a stake in the heart of the PATRIOT Act, among other things. He added that the REAL ID Act has no place in public policy.
[8:01pm] Gravel just brought up the National Initiative for Democracy. This is a drive turn the US into a direct democracy, or rule of the mob.
[8:02pm] Jingozian sarcastically asks, “How can you not like the PATRIOT Act?”
[8:04pm] Kubby says that the current immigration policy in the US is something he would expect from the KKK.
[8:05pm] Root says that the border should be secured and a pathway should be provided to immigrants.
[8:06pm] Barr says that there is no immigration policy. He says that immigrants should come through a checkpoint to ensure they don’t pose a health or security threat.
[8:07pm] Gravel: “Freedom means no barriers.” He also brief promoted the FairTax.
[8:09pm] Phillies: “As long as you have a welfare system, you can’t have open borders. You’ll go broke.”
[8:09pm] Jingozian: “You can’t have open borders in a welfare state.”
[8:10pm] He adds that if he’d be in jail if he used the same accounting practices in his business that the US government uses.
[8:11pm] Ruwart has her supporters and they are cheering her on, but I don’t believe she is having much of an impact in the debate.
[8:12pm] Root: “The war on drugs is a failure.”
[8:12pm] He adds that we need to end the international war on drugs and legalize marijuana for all Americans.
[8:13pm] Barr: “Clearly the drug war has not worked.”
[8:13pm] Barr advocates federalism on the drug issue.
[8:14pm] Gravel says that the drug issue is a public health issue.
[8:15pm] Phillies: “The war on drugs is a total failure,” adding that “we’re too broke to afford [the war on drugs].
[8:18pm] Kubby, a marijuana activist, said he was buzzed because he was sitting on the stage with a former Congressman and Senator, as well as Libertarian activists, discussing and agreeing that the war on drugs is a failure.
[8:20pm] Barr says that California judge Jim Gray would be his first nominee to the Supreme Court.
[8:22pm] Gravel calls for term limits for all branches of government, including Supreme Court.
[8:26pm] Did Kubby just say, "Madison v. Mayberry"?
[8:26pm] Root takes a line from Giuliani by saying that school choice is the civil rights issue of the 21st century.
[8:27pm] Gravel gets asked a question about healthcare and the FDA.
[8:29pm] Gravel completely side-stepped the question.
[8:29pm] Phillies is laying out some very good policy proposals on healthcare, including opening up interstate commerce and taking better care of veterans.
[8:30pm] Jingozian says that the drug and medical industry need to be deregulated in order to bring healthcare cost down.
[8:33pm] Kubby cites the FDA as the problem with healthcare.
[8:34pm] Root needs to lay off the Red Bull.
[8:34pm] Root hits on several issues to bring down healthcare costs, including tort reform.
[8:35pm] Barr says that the FDA and government are responsible for fifty percent of healthcare costs.
[8:35pm] We're moving on to gay marriage.
[8:36pm] Phillies says that he is proud to be from Massachusetts. He adds that he'll "ask Congress to repeal the bigoted Defense of Marriage Act." That comment was a shot a Barr.
[8:37pm] Ruwart also sets her sites on DoMA. She said that it "would have to go."
[8:39pm] Root says that it marriage is none of the government's business.
[8:40pm] Barr is renouncing the Defense of Marriage Act. He said that as president he would work to repeal his own legislation.
[8:41pm] Cal, I showed your comment to Dave Weigel from Reason. See his column on Ruwa