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Denver - Day 3

Green Death finally got here around 11:30pm last night. Delta was kind enough to put his luggage on the wrong flight, they did manage to get it to him this morning.

We stopped by Starbucks. I needed a coffee. I picked up this shirt from LPStuff. We bumped into M Carling, who is parliamentarian of the convention and a well respected member of the party. We had a quick discussion. He is one of the individuals I've always heard of but never met. Very nice guy.

We'll be heading down to the vendors booths in a few minutes. Green Death has to register. We may try to catch the Rockies game this afternoon or the new Indiana Jones movie late this evening.

Tonight is the presidential debate. You can watch it at 9pm (Eastern time) on C-SPAN.

More updates later.

[9:10am] I spoke with Steve Kubby on my way down to the floor. He asked me if I had given my token. I don’t know if I mentioned this yesterday, but I gave mine to Barr. I told him I was committed. He asked if I had given my token away for the VP nomination. He said he was considering running for the VP nomination. I told him that if he announced, I would give him my token.

Just to give you some insight into the LP nominating process. The VP nominee is selected separately from the presidential nominee. I’ve seen several comments on other blogs where people say that they hope Barr picks this or that person for his running mate. It simply does not work that way. That isn’t to say that he, or whoever the nominee is, may not have influence in determining their running mate. It is, however, ultimately up to the body.

[9:21am] The 80 token threshold to be included in the debate is being lowered to ten percent of the number credentialed delegates. Right now that would be about 60 tokens.

[9:23am] Presidential candidate who do not win the nomination will be given the opportunity to run for the VP nomination. There are many delegates holding on to their token for VP.

[9:24am] Green Death is wearing a Bob Barr cowboy hat. By the way, there is a lot of anti-Barr propaganda around the convention, but as the convention moves along I see more and more delegate wearing pro-Barr buttons.

[9:27am] LNC Chairman Bill Redpath put the floor on notice that we’d begin in a few moments. We’ll begin with more debate on by-laws. I was told to be on the floor this morning for another battle. We’ll see how this goes.

[9:31am] Stephen from The Liberty Papers just stopped by and introduced himself.

[9:32am] Redpath just called the floor to order.

[9:34am] There now 552 credentialed delegates.

[9:35am] There will be a credentials fight at some point.

[9:38am] I forgot to mention that I bumped into Kane earlier. He and Val Venis are both Libertarian Party members. Unfortunately, I missed the media only WWE Snackdown event with them yesterday afternoon.

[9:43am] I just spoke with Stuart Flood, an LNC representative from the Southeast region. He said that there is a problem. Apparently, Florida is threatening to drop out of the region because of the results of the vote on regional representation. We may have to do another vote sometime this afternoon.

[10:03am] Barr just came by and said good morning to the Georgia delegation. I asked him how he was feeling about everything. He said that he felt like things were starting to gel and that he was feeling confident but that we need to keep working the body in his favor. I asked him how he felt about the VP race. He said he was staying out of it.

[10:07am] David Nolan, the party founder and member of the radical caucus, made a motion to suspend the rules so that the two factions would be given 15 minutes each to compare their versions of the platform. It looks like the reformers are going to lose this one.

[10:11am] Actually, I forgot that this required a 2/3 vote. The radicals got 180, but the reformers manage to get enough votes to kill the motion. Most of the Georgia delegation voted against it.

[10:14am] A motion was made a moment ago that would require a division of the delegates to move from 20 to 40. It requires 2/3 approval. This is an important motion because radicials are using division to slow down business on the floor.

[10:17am] The motion passes. We can move along now.

[10:20am] The AJC has a story up about Glenn Jacobs (aka Kane).

[10:21am] Alicia Mattison is presenting the report of the platform committee. This will be very important as far as determining how the party will present its message over the next two years.

[10:40am] By the way, I'll be liveblogging the debate tonight.

[10:45am] We'll be working through our next break until 12:30pm.

[10:52am] The body voted to approve the majority report of the platform committee. A previous motion to extend debate for another 15 minutes failed.

[10:59am] Word is that two presidential candidates have dropped out and endorsed Barr.

[11:01am] Just overheard from a male member of the Georgia delegation, "I gotta go find Starchild and give him a kiss." He was, of course, joking.

[11:04am] The radicals have to see the writing on the wall, they are losing just about every vote.

[11:17am] The body just passed the plank on "Rights and Discrimination" and we are debating the "Internation Affairs" plank of the platform. The majority report on the issue is non-interventionist, but the minority report is on immigration, and very long.

[11:22am] The body voted that the minority report is not germaine.

[11:33am] AmSpec has video from this morning.

[12:08pm] I just voted with the radicals against a platform plank on "International Security and Individual Rights." It is too broad. However, it opened up debate and amendments for things like the abolition of the CIA and so on. Hopefully, we can get a more narrow view of what power we believe government should have.

[12:19pm] We're going to break here in a few moments. I just got word to head over to Barr's booth to find out how many tokens he received. There is no doubt that he'll have enough, he likely received a large portion of the ten percent needed from the Georgia delegation. By the way, the Georgia delegation is almost entirely in support of Barr.

[12:28pm] The AJC meets Starchild.

[1:01pm] The tokens have been turned in for tonight's debate. There will be seven candidates participating.

They are:
- Root: 94 tokens
- Barr: 93 tokens
- Ruwart: 92 tokens
- Gravel: 67 tokens
- Phillies: 62 tokens
- Jingozian: 62 tokens
- Kubby: 60 tokens

[3:05pm] We're back, working on the platform and moving right along. We're on recommendation 10 of 46.

[3:16pm] Word on the street is that Barr gave a "chunk" of his tokens to other candidates in order for them to get in the debate.

[3:22pm] I love the "Government Finance and Spending" plank: "All persons are entitled to keep the fruits of their labor. We call for the repeal of the income tax, the abolishment of the Internal Revenue Service and all federal programs and services not required under the U.S. Constitution. We opposed any legal requirements forcing employers to serve as tax collectors. Government should not incur debt, which burdens future generations without their consent. We support passage of a "Balanced Budget Amendment: to the U.S. Constitution, provided that the budget is balanced exclusively by cutting expenditures, and not by raising taxes."

[3:31pm] Here updated token numbers:
- Barr: 94 tokens
- Root: 94 tokens
- Ruwart: 92 tokens
- Gravel: 67 tokens
- Jingozian: 63 tokens
- Phillies: 62 tokens
- Kubby: 60 tokens

[4:11pm] I just posted some pictures here.

[4:23pm] We are half way through the platform.

[4:45pm] You watch Barr's team live here.

[4:46pm] Some drama hit the LNC Southeast region...again. Our "friends" from Florida threw a temper-tantrum and left the region. This takes the super-region status away from Southeast. We now have one representative and one alternate. Stuart Flood received the highest number of votes. He is the representative. Barr stepped aside to allow Heather Scott from Tennessee to be the alternate.

[5:45pm] The body voted to delete everything we haven't already dealt with and we are going through each plank to add in new platform information.

[5:52pm] Stephen has an interview with Wayne Allyn Root, one of the candidates for the presidential nomination, over at The Liberty Papers.

[5:57pm] The body just overwhelming passed the "Self-Determination" plank, which contained language from the Declaration of Independence. Only a couple of people voted no.

[6:04pm] We're done with the general business session for the evening. The debate begins in an hour.

Comments

You are going to be pissed when you walk out if Indy.

We've got several people coming to the house to watch the debate this evening. Very exciting.

I wonder if the "word on the street" about Barr giving away some of his tokens is legit. And if so what the reasoning would be behind that?

Marshall,

Yes, it is legit. We are hearing that they were given to Gravel.

Ah yes, that does make sense...

I am amazed that anyone could have voted against the self-determination plank. I can only assume that they did not recognize its origins. Or they may have been truly committed anarchists - not that there is anything wrong with that - and perhaps they objected to the assumption that there should be any form of government.

And by the way - Classical Anarchy - as invisioned by 19th Century anarchists - is not THAT bad an idea.

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