In all honesty this kind of diversion is nothing more than what all the other political bodies in the nation does. "Lets et them focused on something that is emotional so they won't see us screwing up the logical". And since when did a government body give a rip about public opinion,that is if they thought could get what they wanted without too much damage to the ruling party.
Don

With the controversy over a
change in the McDonough Square we see that there are again ideals that are being misrepresented in the press not only in the given article but in other avenues of the same publication. It is unusual that this publication did not use the author of the article about the square but a picture of someone else. Here is how the founding fathers used their wisdom to create what we know as our nation.
The Articles of Confederation which our nation lived under from 1781-1789 was a union between the states to be known as the United States of America. The idea of creating this Union was to hold the new States together
but guarantee the individual
rights of the thirteen new states. The government formed by these Articles would create a Congress with delegates from each State to handle foreign affairs and raise an Army in time of war.
The word confederate means one who takes part in a league or an alliance. The issue that is on the minds of these folks is the issue of the word Confederacy as in the Confederate States of America 1861-1865. These eleven states left the Union or alliance of the United States of America. It has been argued
by historians and scholars that this act was an unlawful act on the part of these states. The states who left the Union did it under protest of their states rights issues. The United States which constituted the Northern States felt this was unlawful and an attack upon the nation. The Civil War came of all this and took our nation through one of the hardest periods of our history. The Confederate States Constitution for the most part mirrored the Constitution of the United States which we adopted in 1787 and was formed from the Articles of Confederation. Historians have always discussed this period and found that they can disagree and still be friends.
The 1780's was a critical period, one of impending collapse and chaos from which the newly independent republic was rescued only by the timely adoption of the Constitution. The difficulties and failures of the 1780's with the business depression, the weaknesses of the central government under the Articles of Confederation, the threats to American territory from Great Britain and Spain, the debts of the confederation and of the States, the interstate jealousies and barriers to trade, the widespread resort to paper money inflation, and the disorders and lawlessness culminating in Shays Rebellion. "Shays Rebellion of 1786 was that of Daniel Shays protesting the ways debts were collected and after being captured in 1787 for fighting against government troops. He was pardoned and some of his concessions were put into effect." There was a darkness before the dawn. The dawn came with the establishment of the new government under the Constitution as conditions began to improve. These people found a way to make a change and survive in the process. The people of today should be able to do the same. Whether you call it a confederation, union, league, or alliance of states it is all the same and the meaning is of such great importance that many have forgotten the hardships that brought us together as a nation. That piece of paper that was ratified in 1789 became the most unique document a people have written to govern themselves since the Magna Carta of 1215 by King John at Runnymede to guarantee the liberty and rights of the people.
You know the following words
mean so much and they are not just for a few but for all or they mean nothing. These words are "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." This is the Preamble of our Constitution. Remember it starts with We the People. Right up front the founding fathers had the wisdom to put the people first. Then it led right into our given rights which were spelled out in the Bill of Rights. That is the beauty of our system of government we have the right to disagree with one another and say how we feel about issues without fear of reprisal even though many have been punished for their beliefs and words even though it is not right it is a fact. If we did not have this system of government we would be living in a nation with no voice and with no rights to back ourselves. It is the old saying together we stand divided we fall. Our nation containing the fifty states need one another to survive. So maybe by learning more about how our nation was created will help those who are not well versed in the subject. Just remember we are all in this together so try to make the best of it. It is ours right or wrong just the same.
The Doctor

why does anyone take racist ray seriously?

From the article: According to Ray McBerry, State Chairman of the League of the South and active member of the Sons of the Confederate Veterans, says, “there has never been any restrictions prior to this and it is not clear why the Mayor and City Council are considering changing this..."
Perhaps because the Confederacy lost, and nobody wants a loser flag prominantly displayed in our town square. I'm fine with honoring the average Confederate dead soldier with a statue and a flag and I do agree that this whole thing is partly political demagoguery. However, we should never honor the Confederacy itself, which wanted to expand slavery into the western territories and was decisively crushed by the United States' military.

This is the Preamble of our Constitution. Remember it starts with We the People. Right up front the founding fathers had the wisdom to put the people first. Then it led right into our given rights which were spelled out in the Bill of Rights.
And the Confederacy wanted to limit the rights of people in the western territories by expanding slavery into the West. The average Confederate soldier may have fought out of a sense of duty, brotherhood, and patriotism, so I pity them in retrospect, but the leaders in the South deserve no sympathy. The Confederacy was defeated, and their flag represents a league or alliance of losers.

The comment about the Confederate flag being a flag of a group of losers who deserve no respect. This statement is filled with hate. You know if these leaders were such losers why is the tactics of battle still studied at the United States Military Academies especially the tactics of General Robert E. Lee? Also, when human remains are found such as those from the C.S.S. Hunley
they are buried with full military honors by the United States Military. Also, it took the Union Army
almost five years to win their war and they lost far more men than those of the Southern Army. And it is also a fact that several of the Confederate Officers who led their men so valiantly were made officers of the United States Army after the Civil War. For example: General Joseph Wheeler CSA became a General in the US Army after the war and went on to become General of the United States Army under President McKinley. The men who fought on the side of the South deserve recognition as men who fought for their beliefs and not as a bunch of losers. A loser is a person who degrades the memory of a fallen soldier who fought for his beliefs.
Would You?
Dark Knight

I have been back home a few days and came back to find something about a group known as the League of The South. Up where I am from we have heard of this group and it has been associated with white supremacy groups
such as the Aryan Nations.
I sincerely hope these people are not getting a foot hold here in Henry.

I think the KKK-types are having a revival of sorts. It's not as blatant as it has been in times past, but you don't have to look far to see it. There are certainly history buffs out there and for whatever reason, those types will cling to one war or another. But the claimed fascination by so many with the Civil War is inexplicable if you really believe they don't have ill feelings toward black people. Actually, I have more respect for the clowns who dress up in their white sheets...at least they are honest.

Dark Knight, please read my comment closely. Pay particular attention to these thoughts:

I'm fine with honoring the average Confederate dead soldier with a statue and a flag...

The average Confederate soldier may have fought out of a sense of duty, brotherhood, and patriotism, so I pity them in retrospect...

The military men were not the losers. They followed orders out of a sense of duty, brotherhood, and loyalty. The losers were the Fire-Eaters, led by John C. Breckinridge. These idiots did not understand that in American politics you do not get anything accomplished without winning elections! Instead, these pro-slavery expansion morons divided the Democratic Party and gave the election to Lincoln, which instigated the Civil War. Of course, you also had the idiotic third-party candidate John Bell (third parties are ALWAYS losers in presidential elections, by the way) to take more votes away from the Democrats. Third-party losers today should take a lesson from the election of 1860. You never "win by losing."

And folks who feel some sort of nostalgia for the Confederacy should realize that the Confederacy stood for the expansion of slavery into the western territories. We should honor our dead with humility, but we should never honor the Confederacy itself.

Contradictions are forever in this situation. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Start off by saying good things about the southern soldiers then come back and bash them. Now that really sounds just about right.

You know this Robbie person
talks a lot about idiots and losers could he be one.
No use in calling me names I know that I am a Yankee,
a loser, and probably an idiot. It is easy to call the dead names who cannot defend themselves. Maybe you should take a good look at yourself in the mirror you might not like what you see it is called hatred.

I never bashed the Southern soldiers. For the umpteenth time, the soldiers fought out of duty, brotherhood, and patriotism. It is the nostalgia for the Confederacy that I hate.
Nobody can address my points about the election of 1860 because what I wrote is true.

Robbie,
I see the bitterness you have about the Confederacy. But it is to make a judgement on people 140 years after the fact. yes their was the slavery issue, but it was only one of many issue that involved states rights.
But I would like to ask you one thing, what country did slavery flourish in before the civil war. What about the idiots that ran that country before the civil war. Was their slavery in the northern states before the civil war ? Were their any Black americans who owned slaves before the civil war ?
After the civil war , what nation in the americas allowed segregation to flourish ?
Aso one more question, what person said , " if the slaves could be free to save the union, it would be done, If the slaves could exist where it was then ,and save the union , it would also be done"
There was a preposal about sending slaves back to africa, and establish them a country of there own. Could you explain that to me. Some os this I read and some of heard, mayby you could explain it better,
Doctor, how are you doing ? I feel a little better. As I remember the atatues were put up in town squares, to remember the dead nad the living, The ones erected in cemeteries were put there for the dead, right .
How are you feeling, man I hope you are feeling better. I got another old doctor this afternoon , so i'll write you some more tonight. Take care my friend.

It is not slavery alone that bothers me about Confederate nostalgia. It is slavery plus the fact that some want to celebrate the stupidity of secession.
Lincoln wasn’t on the ballot in nine Southern states, and his opponents still couldn’t defeat him. How pathetic! Look at the popular vote in the 1860 election, and you could interpret the data as saying that most of the country did not want war. Even in the South, the vote was pretty evenly-divided between the third-party, anti-secession candidate Bell and the pro-secession Breckinridge.
Breckinridge and the Fire-Breathers could have united with the Constitutional Union Party and Douglas to defeat Lincoln and avoid the bloody Civil War. Instead, the Fire-Breathers led their brothers and sons into a war they couldn’t win. (And it took five years because most Northerners didn't really want to fight either.)

And you're right, Terry, slavery, per se, was not the issue. The main issue was the expansion of slavery into the western territories.

Now to your questions:
what country did slavery flourish in before the civil war.
Pretty much every society since the beginning has had slavery.

What about the idiots that ran that country before the civil war.
Well, they managed to hold the country together, so they must not have been too idiotic, unlike the idiotic Democrats and Constitutional Unionists in the 1860 presidential election.

Was their slavery in the northern states before the civil war?
Yes, and there was still slavery in some Northern states after the Emancipation Proclamation. The issue of the war was whether or not slavery would expand into the west.

Were their any Black americans who owned slaves before the civil war?
I believe so, but I'm not sure why this is relevant.

After the civil war , what nation in the americas allowed segregation to flourish?
The United States and South Africa come to mind.

what person said , " if the slaves could be free to save the union, it would be done, If the slaves could exist where it was then ,and save the union , it would also be done"
I believe it was Lincoln. Again, the issue was the expansion of slavery. I have heard that Lincoln made a distinction between civil rights and natural rights. Natural rights would be those Jefferson outlined in the Declaration of Independence. According to this point of view, God gave us all natural rights but not necessarily civil rights.

Dear Terry,
Good to hear from you. I know how it is with doctor's. I am still having
problems with my heart and this new pain medicine is keeping me very sedated but maybe it will ease up some.
Keep up the good work. I really like seeing you write about what is widely known by most but some still do not understand. You know I have been reading the back and forth about the fact that Robbie does not like the nostalgia
for the Confederacy. It would not be any different for people who are nostalgic for the study of World War I and World War II. I know people who are enthralled into the nostalgic experience of the 1950's and even folks who are nostalgic about the music of different periods.
Personally I study a lot of historical facts that range from the Ancient Egyptians to the American Indians. I don't just study the Civil War. I know many people who find the Civil War as a
hobby to them. Some folks even go as far as to build models of certain battles in their basements. It would be no different from a person who has a hobby of setting up a train set with
towns and landscapes. It is the small number of people that take the Civil War as a launching point for their hate of others that worries me. These groups do not like Blacks, foreigners of any origin, even religious groups such as Jewish folks, Catholic folks, and they see the world in a very narrow view.
These people probably will never change because they were taught from childhood by their parents to hate. And yes the election of 1860
was slanted to where the country would be decisively
divided and would fall into
civil war. Remember our nation was still learning how to be a nation and they were making mistakes just as we do today. It wasn't just the fact that some states in the west wanted to be slave states there were some others that did not want to be slave states here in this position they were still leaning on the states rights issue and did not want the central government telling them how to run their business in every action that they took.
The actions of a few seem to outweigh the actions of the many. Maybe one day we can understand. Terry I will be looking for you later here my friend. I hope you have a nice afternoon.
The Doctor

Hi Doc,
I had a feeling you all ready knew , that I knew the answers to the Questions I asked. You put the years that you and I have in our lives ,in our research,it just about would takes us both back to "The war Between the States.
The american goverment that ruled this nation before ,during, and after the war were never Idiots, ,they were our forefathers.You have to go back further than John C. Breckenridge, to find fire brands , Ole John C. comes to mind. But Doc, your right their is a deep atatchment of southern people to their state, it was a pride and love , people were willing to die for. Their is no education in the understanding of that time, that is taught to younger generation, it is sad. I have seen such a change in the last 40 plus years, we did not live up to our pledge to our ancestors to see that the memory of our confederate soldiers would always be treated with honor and respect. I am afraid that the honor will pass with us.
Write to you tonight.
Terry

Good Evening Doc,
You know , If I didn't know better, Ii would almost think Robbie was talking About John C. Calhoun. Breckinridge was a vice president ,But he really didn't come on the the seen until 1849.He was a young man to top it all off. When you mention name like Calhoun,Tombs,Cobb, Or Ruffin, that is your fire brands. Breckinridge did not even do that well in the 1860 elections , 3rd is not good.
He was not a great general ,but he was not a bad one either. He and Bragg crossed horns, but look how well he did at Chickamauga , and New Market. He was going to court Martial Felix Robertson for killing black soldiers . He was even against the KKK.
That fact they held the country together before the civil war , does not obsolve them for slavery. the fact that every society has had slavery before the civil war was a nice way around the answer, our country had slavery, and you knew that was what I was pointing at. South Africa is not part of america .
I don't pity the confederate , I admire him. Their is not a person today that would endure what they went through.
you know what Doc: when god was taken out of the hearts and minds of the american people and it's youth. the understanding of our nations past and the people who lived and died for it, died with it. It was the base of our honor,and our pride as a people.I feel like giving up at times.

Dear Terry,
Amen my friend. You know when our generation is gone
rememberance of the past will pass with us. There may be a few who remember such as my son but they are few and far between. The changes we have seen in the past 40 plus years have been
so hard to accept at times.
Morals, friendship, chivalry, kindness, love of country, love of life, love of our Lord, love of our past, and so many more things are all but gone. We live in such a hard world today where people do not try to understand their neighbors, for the most part they don't even want to know their neighbors. There is little or no understanding of another person's problems. Folks are just wrapped up in their own little worlds and have left the rest of the world out. People are living too fast today. They don't stop to look around them to see what is happening to our society. From all that I have studied we are going the way of the Roman Empire. They lost their moral fiber and the decline started until there was an empire no more. I often think of my ancestors who fought not just in the Civil War but all the other wars our nation has been involved and I often wonder what life would be like if they hadn't went to do their duty for their nation. Many people do not realize that if those good people hadn't stood up and fought we wouldn't be here today as we are. Our world would be vastly different. It is like George Bailey in "It's
A Wonderful Life" what would the world be like if he hadn't been born? What would our world be like if our forefathers hadn't stood up for what they believed? You know as I do that history is always evolving into what is to be and we only tip the balance a little as we make our changes may they be small or large. You know this Saturday is Confederate Memorial Day and I will remember my ancestors who died in that war and I had several who did not return home from the field. I am still very proud of them regardless of what uniform they wore. I remember my Daddy talking about my great great grandfather and my great great great grandfather who went off to fight in the 35th GA Regt out of Walton County. They were father and son going off to far off places they never dreamed they would go.
They were just poor dirt farmers who stood up when they were asked to and without question. That was the honor not because they might have fought in so many battles but the fact that they went when asked without hesitation. With my health as it is my prayers are with our troops who are in harms way in the Middle East today. My days of fighting are over but I am still there in spirit with those who went because they were asked to go. I hope you have had a nice day Terry and hope that you are feeling better. I am not feeling too well tonight and have been losing the feeling below the knees quite a bit lately. I am still having trouble getting used to this new pain medicine. Well again I am very proud of your work above and keep up the good work. We are two old ghosts that still can let the world know about the past. Talk to you later sir.
Sincerely
The Doctor

Dear Terry,
There was something else my friend, thank you for being the gentleman you are sir.
It is people of integrity as yourself that keeps us going from day to day. I know how hard life is and no one can feel the pains we feel but it just makes us stronger from inside. Never give up because there is always people who do not understand the way we feel about the past and our good heritage. May God be with you sir and hope to here back from you soon.
Your friend
The Doctor

I have said over and over again that I have some respect for Confederate military men, but no respect for the Confederacy nor the idea of secession nor the Confederate idea that slavery had to be expanded into the West. I thank God for those who have a nostalgia for the Civil War and history, but nostalgia for the Confederacy is pitiable. I am referring to Breckinridge. He won the Southern states, although Bell came close in most of the Southern states, which shows that the people weren't as secessionist as it might appear to someone just looking at the electoral votes.
Sorry, Terry did write "the Americas," and I did write "South Africa." My mistake. I'm just not sure why Terry's questions were relevent to the discussion. I guess he is trying to demonstrate that the Civil War wasn't primarily about slavery. I would agree that it wasn't primarily about slavery in the South, the border states, or even the Northern states that still had slavery. It was primarily about the expansion of slavery into the West. New free states would threaten the Southern way of life by giving anti-slavery forces more power in Congress. Before the Civil War, this conflict between North and South was avoided. By 1860, some foolish men failed to unite against Lincoln and have some sort of compromise. I blame the pathetic Democrats and the stupid third-party for not being able to unite against Lincoln and win the election. Again, 1860 demonstrates the stupidity of third party candidacies. If the popular Constitutional Union Party had united with the Democrats, we might've avoided the Civil War. But perhaps it had to be that way. Perhaps it was the wrath of God, lest anyone thinks I've lost morals and a love of our Lord.

Breckinridge was dumb. He ran for president in 1860, knowing he had no chance, as a matter of principle. He didn't care about actually winning an election, which is the purpose of politics. He only cared about feeling good about himself. This was the secessionist/Confederate mentality. And this supreme stupidity is one reason the Confederacy should not be honored in McDonough or anywhere else in the U.S. Confederate soldiers, and Union soldiers, for that matter, were victims of this "win by losing" stupidity.

Hi Doc,
Have you ever read the book Confederate Generals of Georgia ? That book was written by three of us from 92 to 94 . Bobby Kerlin, myself , and Carolyn Cary. I have even researched Alabama's Generals, and every other general that served the confederacy, I have studied every thing from them ,wives and children, the minds of these men are so interesting to study, some were born leaders, and some could not command a company of men. This holds true north and south, but their is no one who would say they were stupid.
It is sad that a person who is so right about Kansas, Missouri, and the border war, is so bent on showing how tough, radical , or what ever he wants people to see be that way. He is right about restricting slavery being the issue of the border wars.
What on earth did Breckinridge do to him, is that the only name he knows.He is just stuck on that. Why hurt people with words like stupid, idiot, and so forth. he has a hatred and wants the world to know it. he likes to inflame peoples feelings, historians will debate ,they will argue even, but they all have the same goal at the end, history. They will set there and say "this is what I have found" , another person will offer a different opinion. but they don't set there and try to provoke a argument, just to be mean snd hurtful to all. They are for sure not going to get respect , it takes many years to gain respect from anybody, in the the words you speak and the way you speak them, are more important than if you are right or wrong when you say them. It shows you have no respect for yourself.
Doc, you know I appreciate the nice things you said, but you might as well say them for yourself .I worry about you getting sick and I don't know. I don't like to write you so much and you write right back. Please only do that when you feel like it,I myself have to do that. The drops I am putting in my eyes everyday, at times makes where I can't hardly see.I am going to have to teach my Dachshund how to type. Just keep up with me on how things are going, I do care !
Speaken of drops ,Time to do them so I am done for the night.
Your friend,
Terry

Dear Terry,
Good to hear from you my friend. You are correct I really do not understand what that gentleman really wants. Hurtful words will get him no respect in the eyes of historians. I have a copy of the book you referred to which you and Bobby put together. I use it often as reference to some of the work I have been involved with. Terry I have to go to the heart doctor tomorrow not looking forward to that. I hope those drops will help your eyesight. You know Terry this person who keeps putting the Confederacy down should understand that was yesterday and this is today. We study the history of the Civil War to bring forth the knowledge of what happened to the people of the time. Their hardships, their longings, and their hopes and dreams. It is hard to put ourselves in their position but it is worth the study thereof. I truly worry that one day the people will not know the truth of what came before. They want everything to be politically correct. I am so tired of that phrase. They don't understand that the truth of the matter is that so much of history has been lost in the tangles of the minds of those who have tried to interpret it. I love the study of history and I have combined many years of the study with years of archeology of the period. I worked hard for that degree and you know I have seen many before who like to down play the heritage of the southern people. Well I am tired tonight and I am not feeling well and I hope Terry that you are going to be fine. I have been saying prayers for you sir and I hope you continue to carry forth the word. Life is so much better with gentleman in it such as yourself. Have a wonderful evening and talk back to you later.
Your friend
The Doctor

I think this person named Robbie must have a life filled with idiots and losers because he likes to use those names a lot. Maybe he needs something good to happen in his life so he won't feel so badly towards something that happened over 140 years ago.

Doc and Terry,
How can someone say the Confederacy was stupid when as of today the US Military studies they're tactics? You know it reminds me of the little boy on a playground that was left out of a game and now would do anything to spoil it for everyone else. What is the truth in my opinion is any war is wrong because it means that communications have broken down no matter what it is about, but it is a neccessary evil. I think of my Confederate ancestors everyday and the great men that led them to battle. It is sad that some of our own people don't get it but people from Japan and the Far East love to study the Civil War and in particular the Confederacy. That's my thoughts. Dr. and Terry hope you get to feeling better soon.
Dark Knight

People, are you not reading what I write??? My beef is NOT with the Confederate military. I NEVER wrote that they were stupid. They were VICTIMS of the stupid Democrat and Constitutional Union POLITICAL PARTIES. These parties were so inept that they couldn't defeat Lincoln even though Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in nine Southern states! How pathetic is that? Breckinridge was a better general than he was a politician. The goal of a politican should be to WIN ELECTIONS. Breckinridge ran for president in 1860, even though he had NO CHANCE of winning, and he acknowledged that. The Constitutional Union Party's candidate, John Bell, did very well in most of the South, including in Georgia. If the Democrats and the Constitutional Union Party had cared about winning rather than just feeling good about themselves, they might've united to defeat Lincoln, and the Civil War might've been avoided.
We SHOULD study the Civil War. We SHOULD study history. We SHOULD honor the Confederate dead. Again, they were the victims.
Perhaps--and this is an issue of theology, not history--the Civil War was collective punishment from Heaven for both sides for the sin of slavery.

Anyone who thinks the Civil War wasn't 100% about slavery is a Godd*mn retard.

Southerners hate(d) blacks and want(ed) to keep them in slavery. Plain and simple. End of discussion. Beat. Head. Against. Brick. Wall. Rinse. Lather. Repeat.

Southerners hate[] blacks and want[] to keep them in slavery.

I know you're just trying to be cute, but to say that the average Southerner today wants to keep blacks in chains, to beat them at will, and to break up families by selling them, is absurd.

In fact, "[a]nyone who thinks the [average Southerner isn't 100% in favor of the abolishment of slavery] is a Godd*mn retard."

Hey Dark night,Doug, Mad Doctor,
Good evening to all of you . Listen I have tried to discuss this the right way, it can't be done.
They live and love off the anger they cause,they are not worth the effert.Doug and D.K. all you can do is what is right, when you have honor you don't have to argue with people like that, you have already won.
It is sad to use the word retard, their are children and adults,who are the Lords very special children. They work at places like kroger and even Walmart. That word has no place in this world ,along with a word that starts with N. Use your voice to say what feel in your heart to be right, derogatory words just shows ignorance.
Thank you D.K. for the nice words for Doc and me.

Dear Terry,
Good to hear from you sir.
I am like you the word retard has no life in this discussion. My youngest child whom I love with all my heart was electrocuted as a child and he is Autistic with moderate retardation. He is a fine man and I don't like seeing anyone use that word in disgrace as they have above.
Also, I don't like seeing the Lord's name taken in vain. Again there is a lack of civility and morality with these folks in their words and actions.
Terry, I went to the heart specialist today. The word was not good. I am to go to the hospital next week for some further tests to check to see if my heart has weakened further. I am concerned not for myself but for my family. Please say a prayer for me sir. I need all of them I can get.
Life is a precious thing and I am fighting to keep mine. Talk back to you later.
Sincerely
The Doctor

I had points about history, but "Second-to-Last Confederate Navajo" is obviously a semi-literate boob. I am a Southerner, born and raised, and I believe that race is a completely man-made concept. Most of the people I know here in the South believe that the amount of melanin one has in his/her skin is completely insignificant. If you want to see a color-blind coterie, go to an evangelical church in suburban Atlanta. This would refute the stupid, pompus claim than Southerners are racists. It's Northeastern liberals who believe people should be treated differently based on skin color, not Southerners.

Isn't it strange how most of the time when there is a discussion about the Confederacy racial issues are brought to the forefront. Mr. Navajo must admit that he looks quite foolish with his statements.
Robbie you are right that race is an issue that is brought about to create divisiveness. I wonder if Mr. Navajo knew that there were very many black Confederate soldiers and before you attack me Robbie
most of them wanted to fight for the south. There
has been many of these soldiers honored for their service and the stories of their service have been passed down through their respective families and they have great pride in the fact that their ancestor served. But back to the race issue, you know prejudice, bigotry, or lame mindedness is something that runs deep in our society. Not just for the whites but the blacks and the other races that we now have here in our nation. It is sad that people have a hard time accepting people for who they are and not downing them because they may be different from what they perceive as mainstream. And as for the Civil War it actually began about twenty years earlier and was aborted by some fancy maneuverings by our leaders of the day. Our country was on thin ice in the 1840's and civil war was almost a reality much earlier than it came. The Civil War would have happened whether Lincoln was elected or not. The north was determined to tax the south for exports to Europe and the southern states were not going to continue to be pressured by their neighbors to the north. It was just a matter of time. Just like our entry into World War I and World War II both wars began long before we got involved but it was inevitable that our nation would enter into these conflicts. War solves really nothing but opens other wounds that will last for generations. Man will never learn his lesson on this subject because he does have that one instinct and that is to make war on his neighbor. Well it is late I'm tired and the rooster is not far behind.
The Doctor

To all those out there remember today is Confederate Memorial Day please take a moment to remember those who gave their lives for their cause.
The Doctor

Dear Terry,
Checking to see if you are
okay. I will be looking to
see your reply.
Your Friend
The Doctor

Good Evening Doc,
I have felt a little better today, sugar got to low though. I just about fainted, my brother got me some juice in it finally got better.
I wrote a letter to the editor of the Fayette citizen ,asking everyone to take a moment to remember our confederate dead. I hate to even say anything on here, somebody will have some bad remark.I guess I have spent so much of my life studying and writing about their lives,it hurts to see their memory so mistreated. if you want to read what I wrote just go to the fayette citizen, and click on editoral.I'll check back with you tonight, Put your heart in God's hands, anything weak, he can make strong. Is St. Joseph your hospital?

Dear Terry,
Good to hear from you my friend. I hope that your sugar is at a more tolerable level tonight. I will read your article in the Fayette Citizen. It is folks like us that will keep the memory of our fallen ancestors alive. Terry I have been busy on another thread on this site about Ms.Mathis probably having to step down. Your and my name have come up in the posts. Take a look. I have used St. Joseph before and but will use Henry this time. Well I am tired and will be back in touch.
Hope you have a wonderful evening.
Your Friend
The Doctor

Dear Terry,
I read your article in the Fayette Citizen and it was excellent sir. You touched on all the right subjects.
Keep up the good work my friend.
The Doctor

I finally went out to Nash Farm to see the park and try to figure out this place. It was Saturday and it was a hot ass place. No shade in the walk paths thought i would get to hot.
I stumbled back to my car
and drove away hunting a shade. My next stop was Mt.
Carmel Paark and I finally found a shade. It was an
experience. I wanted a cigar but saw a sign that said no smoking. I said to myself I have got to go. Went back home and figured yep this is a confederate place backwards and all.

"States' rights" and federalism were the banner under which local elites in the South could oppress African Americans, both before and after the Civil War. American liberty is the product of decentralized government balanced by a strong central state -- one that is capable, when necessary, of sending the National Guard to Little Rock to protect the right of black children to attend school.
Francis Fukuyama
LA Times

I saw where the SCV had the
memorial service for the fallen over the weekend. I am glad that the ceremony took place to remember those who lost their lives for what they thought was right. I lost a sizeable portion of my family in that war. I want to thank them for remembering those who paid the ultimate price. I hope everyone there including the SCV stopped and learned something about what these people stood for. They stood for their honor and trust in those who led them.
Everyone should take a look at their lives and see if they can improve their standards. I read today an article about the old south.
The old south is not dead it is still here but it has evolved into a south that is much different from my youth. If you join a group to honor those who fought and died in the Civil War join it for the right reasons. Don't join it because it looks like fun. Don't join it to try to impress others. Don't join to see yourself in the paper. Don't join to feel superior to others. Join because you are truly proud of your forefathers and you want to keep their memory alive for those of the future. Keep their graves clean, make sure that the heritage of the south is not
forgotten not with pretty uniforms but with words and the morals of chivalry that are lacking today. And if someone does not agree with you don't try to destroy them but understand their viewpoint. You don't have to agree but you can show courtesy to them. It is when history has been distorted that something must be done to correct the problem. Remember those people who fought 140 years
ago were people like any folks with hopes and dreams.
Many took arms to protect their homes and families. They set a standard that people today would have a hard time measuring up to.
The soldiers of WWII were a
rare breed of men. They fought for the safety of our nation and brought honor in the fact that they
knew it was the right thing to do. Honor is not looking nice in a uniform, or how many you kill in action, honor is the knowledge to do what is right and without question
and respecting the orders given by those in command and doing your best to carry out those orders. Carry the word forward and find where it will lead one
to find his destiny.
The Doctor

Robbie, thank you for the
post of the former neoconservative Mr. Fukuyama. Back in the 1980's I spoke with him at
a seminar on the very subject you speak of. I agree with many of his philosophical viewpoints and on some we disagree but
in all we learn to compromise. You have done exactly as I have asked and it shows that you are listening.
The Doctor

I too am glad that there was
a memorial service for our
Confederate dead. I hope it
was not just for show. Our ancestors deserve all the
rememberance we can give them. It takes men of value
and honor to make such a memorial and I hope we are up to the task.

Good evening Doc and Dark knight,
How are ya'll doing tonight ?
Dark knight I can promise you when the Sons of Confederate Veterans are involved, It was held with honor and Dignaty. If you ever come across the guidelines of the SCV, please read them , they are true laws that are abided by.
Please understand, it is the only thing that we have left as a duty , honor and rememberance , and that the truth always be told, the actions they showed on the battlefields are their statement.We all know their is no Confederate States of America, it died and was buried on the battlefield of history. But its people, soldier and civilian alike, do live on in us.Their are those of us who carry that last name found in the rosters of their company, and carved in the stone of their graves. That is the part of us ,nobody has never understood, they live on in our hearts and in our memory.
Well good night both of you , I have not had a very good day with the diabetes. it had me passed out all day ,"Tomorrow is another day" Geezzz I hope Scarlet is right.

Dear Terry,
I hate to hear that you are
having such bad times with the diabetes. Be careful with that because it sneaks up on us and will make your day so bad. I am having problems getting used to this new pain medicine. I am living in a foggy state.
I agree that the SCV stands for the honor and rememberance of our ancestors. I have been associated with the National SCV since about 1980. I am not feeling too
good today. I will have to go next week to have a special test done on my heart to see how weak it has become. My legs and feet are swelled real bad.
Just say a prayer for me and I have kept you in my prayers my friend. Carry the word forward.
Your friend
The Doctor