...he was looking for a soul to steal.

The state already claims the right to force a person give their name on demand. With modern data networks a name is as good as a national identification card. Privacy, like liberty, may not be dead but it is certainly on life support.

It is a bad Bill for other reasons, too. The REAL ID is problematic from an administration and enforcement view. (within a month forged IDs will be available in Little Havana) It is also opening the door to George Orwell's world. (And some folks were concerned about wire taps!)

The Bill's premise is that illegals will voluntarily come forward to seek legalization. I see the "Z" as a method to find those who want to be found. And they are the ones who will be allowed to legally continue violating the laws they already broke.

With the "Z" there is no reason to seek citizenship. They will have achieved the ability to remain on this soil for work or whatever.

If you can simply walk (swim or crawl) across the border, get the "Z" or not, but you stay and continue your life, what is the point?

Unless illegals want citizenship there is no upside for them to participate. And still, the bogus offer of

(1) pay a fine & back taxes, (2) return home, (3) get in line, and (4) let us decide if you are worthy

The boasting about "security first" is out of hand fraudulant hype. Those measures could be achieved, leave the illegals who are here alone, and avoid the compromise that simply endorses illegality, violates the concept of "nation of laws," and denigrates our cultural standards.

It is my truest hope that enough people in Congress will display an ounce of sense and defeat this travesty.

The following statement by SAXBY CHAMBLISS was issued in response to a citizen's concerns about the Bill:

For me to support any final bill, it must contain the following principles that are important to Georgians:

Guaranteed border security first.

No amnesty and no new path to citizenship.

Temporary means temporary - guest workers must go home at the end of their authorized temporary work period.

End chain migration - replace family-based immigration system with a merit-based system.

Eliminate the job magnet for illegal immigrants by implementing a simple, secure employment verification system.

English should be the official language of the United States and everyone should speak it.

I cannot see WHY these measures cannot be implemented without "Z" cards, open borders, and further attempts to placate our future Hispanic voters.

My suggestion is DO these things first. Prove honest intent and ability to deliver on the promises. Then, only then, explore options regarding "legalizing" illegals already on our soil.

Saxby is "demanding" all those things and supporting a bill that does none of those things. I'm glad he was with the President today, easier to see who to vote against when they are all together in one place.....(I wish I could vote against Bush).

My reasoning for opposing the bill is based solely on the REAL ID requirements, at least at this point. I'm sure there are other issues that'll have with it.

There are economic benefits that are being ignored by conservatives, but that's just my two cents.

I love the illogic of the statists. The government has not been able to stop at least 12 million Mexicans from illegally immigrating across our southern border. Now, our statist-in-chief wants us to trust the federal government to reform immigration? Huh? Bush must think that he actually has credibility left. I say his credibility disappeared with Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction.